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- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- What do you think
- about those games
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- I feel like you proved something I know but don't know the answer to. I like to approach but I don't know how
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- No I sat back because I wanted to see what your gameplan was
- Turns out, you didn't really have much of one
- I definitely don't think you like to approach
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- I don't have much of a gameplan vs samus who doesn't approach.
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- why do you think you lost a bunch of those games
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- I feel like you could camp me harder than I could camp you
- and I lost because I could not find an answer
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- That is a very
- shortsighted way of looking at things
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Yeah
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- did you think I only won because I camped you?
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- No
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- then like
- there has to be a reason you lost
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- I think you won cuz your gameplan was better
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- I mean maybe?
- unconsciously?
- The only Link I've been playing is Kat
- so like
- No that's not my point
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- gotcha
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- I think you're blind to how cheesy you are
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- that's a reasonable statement
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- I picked up on a lot of default actions you would do
- and I was like oh that doesn't work.
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Hm
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- and I know it because
- frame data x
- but other players
- at the Arcadian level
- don't
- so it'll work repeatedly on people who are bad
- but other players who either
- know the data
- or know it intuitively
- that it doesn't work
- they'll just beat you every time
- because they move to the spots to trigger your bear traps
- that don't work
- You have no reasonable expectation for things to work
- but you still do them
- even if I'm obviously baiting them
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Yeah. that makes sense
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- you don't look at the screen
- you're just trying to execute tech
- and setups
- you aren't playing the neutral game
- it can be said that you're barely playing Melee, you're playing some kind of single player game
- When I punished ledgehop
- your solution was not to stop ledgehopping
- it was to grab a bomb
- to make your ledgehop safer
- that is a microcosm of your thought process
- I don't need to change my behavior
- I just need to do a technique
- that will make my behavior good
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- yeah that's a good way of putting it
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- That's not always true in fighting games
- You can't spam your slow ass grab and think it's ok because you'll amsah tech my 16 damage
- you can't pull bombs in close situations because you think it's ok because even if I hit you you still retain the bomb
- mitigating how badly you lose a situation doesn't make it ok to lose situations
- and doing bad things because you have setups or tech
- doesn't make them good things
- If you aren't looking at the screen and being honest with what you're trying to do
- you're going to lose in 2020 melee
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Yeah that makes sense
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- you should probably revisit the basics
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Yeah.
- That might be a good idea
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- Stop doing tech, look at the screen, play the fighting game
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Mhmm. I don't really play the game
- I just throw things out and hope they work
- SilentViolins04/16/2020
- It's really bad
- because you also parrot data
- and use it to justify things
- that are bad
- you need to be able to objectively judge why things work
- and why they stop working
- Im_Zlow04/16/2020
- Gotcha
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