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Im_Zlow

What Violence told me to inspire change

May 3rd, 2020
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  1. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  2. What do you think
  3. about those games
  4. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  5. I feel like you proved something I know but don't know the answer to. I like to approach but I don't know how
  6. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  7. No I sat back because I wanted to see what your gameplan was
  8. Turns out, you didn't really have much of one
  9. I definitely don't think you like to approach
  10. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  11. I don't have much of a gameplan vs samus who doesn't approach.
  12. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  13. why do you think you lost a bunch of those games
  14. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  15. I feel like you could camp me harder than I could camp you
  16. and I lost because I could not find an answer
  17. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  18. That is a very
  19. shortsighted way of looking at things
  20. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  21. Yeah
  22. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  23. did you think I only won because I camped you?
  24. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  25. No
  26. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  27. then like
  28. there has to be a reason you lost
  29. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  30. I think you won cuz your gameplan was better
  31. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  32. I mean maybe?
  33. unconsciously?
  34. The only Link I've been playing is Kat
  35. so like
  36. No that's not my point
  37. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  38. gotcha
  39. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  40. I think you're blind to how cheesy you are
  41. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  42. that's a reasonable statement
  43. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  44. I picked up on a lot of default actions you would do
  45. and I was like oh that doesn't work.
  46. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  47. Hm
  48. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  49. and I know it because
  50. frame data x
  51. but other players
  52. at the Arcadian level
  53. don't
  54. so it'll work repeatedly on people who are bad
  55. but other players who either
  56. know the data
  57. or know it intuitively
  58. that it doesn't work
  59. they'll just beat you every time
  60. because they move to the spots to trigger your bear traps
  61. that don't work
  62. You have no reasonable expectation for things to work
  63. but you still do them
  64. even if I'm obviously baiting them
  65. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  66. Yeah. that makes sense
  67. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  68. you don't look at the screen
  69. you're just trying to execute tech
  70. and setups
  71. you aren't playing the neutral game
  72. it can be said that you're barely playing Melee, you're playing some kind of single player game
  73. When I punished ledgehop
  74. your solution was not to stop ledgehopping
  75. it was to grab a bomb
  76. to make your ledgehop safer
  77. that is a microcosm of your thought process
  78. I don't need to change my behavior
  79. I just need to do a technique
  80. that will make my behavior good
  81. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  82. yeah that's a good way of putting it
  83. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  84. That's not always true in fighting games
  85. You can't spam your slow ass grab and think it's ok because you'll amsah tech my 16 damage
  86. you can't pull bombs in close situations because you think it's ok because even if I hit you you still retain the bomb
  87. mitigating how badly you lose a situation doesn't make it ok to lose situations
  88. and doing bad things because you have setups or tech
  89. doesn't make them good things
  90. If you aren't looking at the screen and being honest with what you're trying to do
  91. you're going to lose in 2020 melee
  92. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  93. Yeah that makes sense
  94. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  95. you should probably revisit the basics
  96. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  97. Yeah.
  98. That might be a good idea
  99. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  100. Stop doing tech, look at the screen, play the fighting game
  101. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  102. Mhmm. I don't really play the game
  103. I just throw things out and hope they work
  104. SilentViolins04/16/2020
  105. It's really bad
  106. because you also parrot data
  107. and use it to justify things
  108. that are bad
  109. you need to be able to objectively judge why things work
  110. and why they stop working
  111. Im_Zlow04/16/2020
  112. Gotcha
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