FateConversation1010101

oD.Chaos ♥: hello
Sensei: hey there
oD.Chaos ♥: so, smash tells me you're interested in picking up overdrive as a tf2 team
oD.Chaos ♥: so you can get a nice tf2 footprint
Sensei: i believe their are benifits for both teams yes :_)
Sensei: :)*
oD.Chaos ♥: I agree, we had a chat as a team, we're interested but wanna know more.
Sensei: ok
oD.Chaos ♥: Other than the free server/forum use, what else is there?
Sensei: we need more ?
oD.Chaos ♥: I'm not saying it's not a nice thing
Sensei: we have a team / site. forums / teamspeak / as many game servers as we like / and we dotn intend on folding any time soon
oD.Chaos ♥: are you looking to really expand into tf2?
Sensei: of course
oD.Chaos ♥: with public servers ect
oD.Chaos ♥: the biggest issues to us are the following
oD.Chaos ♥: we'd like to maintain FTP/CP access to the match server so we can upload maps or run the steam updates without the need to bug somebody about it. We'd also like to make sure that we use mumble over teamspeak
oD.Chaos ♥: privicy is also an issue. The 2 leaders (myself and leftism) would be happy to provide updates on our progress but the rest of the team just like playing
Sensei: we use teamspeak
Sensei: and as discussed with smash
Sensei: we dont mind u using mumble for matches etc
Sensei: but would also like to see your team getting to no other members within fate
Sensei: else ud be a seperate entity
Sensei: 1 sec
Sensei: anouther ceo is joining the convo
oD.Chaos ♥: I honestly can't see us switching voice clients. We'd be happy to intergrate with the clan, but the entire TF2 scene uses mumble so it's just a lot easier for us to use it too. I'm almost certain other teams feel the same from what's posted from other MGOs on the etf2l forums
Sensei: bare with me
oD.Chaos ♥: np
oD.Chaos ♥: :)
Your chat with Sensei is now a multi-user chat.
Oblivion entered chat.
Sensei: hey oblivion
oD.Chaos ♥: hey
Oblivion: yo
Sensei: so you are the head of yoru team
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
Sensei: or is it join with smash ?
Sensei: your*
oD.Chaos ♥: I started the team
oD.Chaos ♥: 3/4 months ago
Sensei: ok so smash is below you rank wise ?
oD.Chaos ♥: well everyone has equal say in what happens
Sensei: ok fair enougth
oD.Chaos ♥: but I settle the arguements :P
oD.Chaos ♥: and do most of the work along with leftism
Sensei: lol
Sensei: so basicly the issue with mumble and ts
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
Sensei: we may have an issue there because as i hope you understand we need to maintain clan releations
Sensei: and if other members of the clan never see you
Sensei: then questions may be asked
oD.Chaos ♥: of course
oD.Chaos ♥: I've managed bigger clans before :)
oD.Chaos ♥: so I understand the concerns
Sensei: ah gdgd the experience helps
Oblivion: is there any sort of compramise we can make on this about using teamspeak
Sensei: so what do you propose knowing our situation here
oD.Chaos ♥: hard to say
Sensei: what are your issues with teamspeak ?
oD.Chaos ♥: it's the fact that the entire tf2 community (comp at least) uses mumble
oD.Chaos ♥: we get people we've never met before on the mumble for mixing and gathers
Oblivion: ok so basicly intergrating oD into our clan would bring such benefits of a nice website to communicate and share tactics on and recruit, obviously recruiting wqould be up to you who you recruit also and you could also have up to 3 tf2 server's theres some of the bonus's i see XD
Sensei: i believe OD could compramise with this situation as stated before both clans have their benifits
Oblivion: you using mumbler i dont see as much as a problem aslong as you guys pop on now and then and use the forums
Oblivion: i see no issue there
Sensei: some communicaton with the clan is better then none
Oblivion: we do have a couple members who would possibly be interested with playing with you guys also as each of them have clocked over a 1000 hours on tf2 and one goes to regular lan events if your interested in some new blood to
oD.Chaos ♥: we've got a tight 7 players atm, but we're open to new guys
oD.Chaos ♥: more backups never hurt :P
Oblivion: well theres always a need for back ups as you know
Oblivion: exactly XD
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
oD.Chaos ♥: I agree that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of us joining clanfate
oD.Chaos ♥: I think a trial on both ends would be a good compromise
Oblivion: yeah thats no problem
oD.Chaos ♥: if we were to wear the tags and have a sample server for say, 1 month
Oblivion: obviously also we do have an admin meeting once a month also
oD.Chaos ♥: that's fine
Sensei: do you currently have a website or servers?
Oblivion: so if a member of your team could participate in that just to let us know how things are running
oD.Chaos ♥: we have a mumble and tf2 server
oD.Chaos ♥: that's it :P
Sensei: ok
Sensei: may i have a list of member names ?
Sensei: as explaiend to smash we would need all memebrs to register to the website
oD.Chaos ♥: yea, I'd make sure that happened
Sensei: many thanks
Sensei: one thing
Sensei: that bothered me
oD.Chaos ♥: only 1 person that woulc cause an issue with that
oD.Chaos ♥: is joker
oD.Chaos ♥: just because he's lazy
Oblivion: lolz
Sensei: ok well this isnt negotiable im afraid mate
oD.Chaos ♥: I know
Oblivion: all hes gotta do is register and thats all he can pick his nose
Sensei: also have you been on our site ?
Sensei: www.clanfate.co.uk
oD.Chaos ♥: I've seen the saite
oD.Chaos ♥: *sitre
oD.Chaos ♥: grr
oD.Chaos ♥: site
oD.Chaos ♥: looks nice
Sensei: thank you
oD.Chaos ♥: it uses that joomla news portal thing for clans right?
Sensei: one thing bothered me was
Sensei: there seemed to be an essence of blackmail
Sensei: that if you didnt get what you wanted you would leave
Sensei: if theres an issue wed prefer it to be discussed
Sensei: and we would see if it could / could not be sorted
oD.Chaos ♥: ignoring the voice server issue, it's just the privicy issue that concerns me
oD.Chaos ♥: I feel responsible for all the guys on my team
Sensei: ofcourse
oD.Chaos ♥: and the morale of the team
Sensei: course
oD.Chaos ♥: if that drops, I get lots of work to cheer them up
Sensei: as does any clan
Sensei: that issue would be shared amungst all of our officers
oD.Chaos ♥: so if there's ever an issue I'd be quick to bring it up with you guys
Sensei: this is what we want :)
Sensei: theres always a way to solve a problem
oD.Chaos ♥: I'd hope that if there's an issue you'd be right on my back :P
oD.Chaos ♥: we're mostly easy going though
Sensei: wed have a chat :)
oD.Chaos ♥: all friends, ect
Oblivion: also we would obviously like you to pick some one to be admin on the site in your team just to post updates on the league like results, smash has done that before
oD.Chaos ♥: can't see that being an issue
Oblivion: sweet
Oblivion: well all sounds good to me then
Oblivion: just hopefully get this finalised tomorow
Sensei: we would also need a full specification from yourselves
Sensei: for a team fortress server
Oblivion: and get some servers up and running, obviously you would need to post your server requirments on the TF2 section on website
Sensei: slots / mods /  etc
oD.Chaos ♥: well a 15 slot server inc stv should be find
oD.Chaos ♥: *fine
oD.Chaos ♥: and if we've got FTP to the root of the server only
oD.Chaos ♥: we'd handle all the mods
oD.Chaos ♥: already got the mods backed up on my pc
Sensei: well
Sensei: we have a dedi server
Sensei: wel speak to our server management reguarding access
Sensei: but shouldent be an issue
oD.Chaos ♥: yea as I said before
oD.Chaos ♥: we just want ftp/cp access
oD.Chaos ♥: so we can sort out mods/maps
oD.Chaos ♥: and update the server when we need
Sensei: sounds good
Sensei: will you be attending the meeting tommorow via ts?
oD.Chaos ♥: can do
Sensei: ok no problem
Sensei: 8pm uk time gmt
oD.Chaos ♥: is it that time every month?
oD.Chaos ♥: because that's prime official game time on a sunday :P
Oblivion: gonna change it to a monday at 8pm after this one
oD.Chaos ♥: ah
oD.Chaos ♥: that's not an issue then
oD.Chaos ♥: I'm out of action atm so I can do whatever's needed
Sensei: no problem then
oD.Chaos ♥: mashed up my finger making a sandwich
Sensei: lol
oD.Chaos ♥: oh one little thing
Sensei: ok
oD.Chaos ♥: what's the deal with tags
oD.Chaos ♥: I get that we'd have to wear them
oD.Chaos ♥: but why aren'y you two?
Oblivion: only do it during game mainly
Oblivion: me personaly i play l4d
Sensei: well we dont wear tags on steam
Oblivion: so ppl run when they see a tag
Sensei: only in game
Oblivion: lol
Oblivion: aslong as tags are worn during official games we are quite lax about it
Sensei: and as css now has a tagging system
Sensei: and league of legends is also non steam
Sensei: we dont have an issue
oD.Chaos ♥: just seems a bit silly
oD.Chaos ♥: when I ran a community
oD.Chaos ♥: everyone was happy to wear the tags at every oppertunity
oD.Chaos ♥: =/
Oblivion: lucky you
Oblivion: we get people bitching
Oblivion: aka css
Oblivion: lol
Sensei: css is our main issue
Sensei: if we wore tags on steam theyd appear again on steam so my name would be    Fate|Fate| Sensei
Sensei: its odd but meh
oD.Chaos ♥: what's the tag btw?
oD.Chaos ♥: is it clanfate.Chaos
Oblivion: |F8|
oD.Chaos ♥: ah
Sensei: Clanfate.#
oD.Chaos ♥: space before the name or doesn't that matteR?
Sensei: sorry
Sensei: thats our new one
oD.Chaos ♥: ah ok
oD.Chaos ♥: :P
oD.Chaos ♥: also, for a full roster
Sensei: well
Sensei: for now
Sensei: use F8
Sensei: wer discussing the tag situation
Sensei: lol
oD.Chaos ♥: http://etf2l.org/teams/11824/
Oblivion: looks good
Oblivion: well we can get this all finalised tomorow then
oD.Chaos ♥: apart from reload
oD.Chaos ♥: he's not in our team
Oblivion: no point dragging this convo on we are all happy with the idea
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
oD.Chaos ♥: so a 1 month trial, see how things go
Oblivion: yeah sounds good
oD.Chaos ♥: hopefully it'll be fine and everyone will be happy
Oblivion: we can chat about it more in the meeting tomorow
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
oD.Chaos ♥: nice oen
Sensei: ok then mate
Sensei: many thanks
Sensei: and wel talk tommorow
Oblivion: for now just mention it to your guys and see there idea's on it
oD.Chaos ♥: yea
Oblivion: anyways then speak to you tomorow, ill add you to steam if you have any other issues to discuss
Oblivion: tatty tatty bye bye XD
oD.Chaos ♥: nice one
oD.Chaos ♥: xx