agathite PMs and context

[23:27:56] <The_Spider_Queen> Hey, so I’m getting a report from Kleptomaniacrow about Agathite pushing the “being a system” thing in PMs and making him uncomfortable, I don’t know if that’s really our jurisdiction but I figured I would pass it on here anyway
[23:29:20] <The_Spider_Queen> (Grabbing screenshots, just on mobile)
[23:29:26] <The_Spider_Queen> They did this in 19 too earlier today
[23:29:36] <The_Spider_Queen> https://viplounge.irc.scpwiki.com/uploads/f5efa13c2cfb0dd7/image.png
[23:39:57] <The_Spider_Queen> https://viplounge.irc.scpwiki.com/uploads/d49f1b875c2d8917/image.png
[23:40:15] <The_Spider_Queen> Particularly the bit about Crow being in denial is what made them
[23:40:18] <The_Spider_Queen> More than uncomfortable
[23:40:44] <The_Spider_Queen> It sounds like they stopped though, but I’m passing it on just in case it doesn’t actually stop
[05:25:29] <Kufat> I'll talk to Agathite today and relay this to AHT

[16:05:31] <The_Spider_Queen> Kufat: they’re back at it
[16:05:33] <The_Spider_Queen> https://viplounge.irc.scpwiki.com/uploads/bc8026267aea25cb/image.png
[16:12:59] <Kufat> The_Spider_Queen, I'm thinking monthlong?
[16:13:12] <The_Spider_Queen> Sure, sounds good to me
[16:13:46] <Kufat> ops, any objections or concerns?
[16:15:20] <ChaoSera> Have they been warned about this before?
[16:15:42] <Kufat> The_Spider_Queen ^
[16:15:44] <ChaoSera> If not jumping straight to monthlong feels a bit much
[16:16:11] <Kufat> ChaoSera, I'm very concerned by someone telling someone else that they have a mental health issue and that their disagreement means that they're in denial
[16:17:13] <ChaoSera> I agree but at the same time I think a weeklong will get the message across just as well and I hesitate to hand out a monthlong on a first offense without even a warning first

PM:
[16:17:22] <Kufat> Hi there. Can you explain why you decided to give a user on this network an armchair diagnosis of a mental health issue and to argue with them and claim that they were in denial when they disagreed?
[16:18:10] <agathite> hi there. I asssume youre a mod? we can send scrshots if you want, they were asking questions about it and all and we were just explaining it to our best. they even left questions while we were asleep
[16:18:32] <agathite> then today they logged on and just dismissed everything as if we were accusing them
[16:19:12] <agathite> now theyre prob mad bc that was hurtful and we said we wouldnt answer their questions next time 🤷‍♀
[16:21:38] <agathite> are there any more questions, mr mod man? this is giving us anxiety
[16:22:02] <Kufat> Staff has seen the logs, including the user's repeated statements that they are not plural or a system, etc., as well as the part where you claim they're in denial. You are being banned from the network for one week. Do not do anything like this again. Do you have any questions before I enact the ban?
[16:22:44] <agathite> yeah, how come is it not okay if they say they dont have it but then they come around like they did? have you read all of the logs?
[16:22:53] <agathite> we never said "hey you have this" and we did say it is a self label
[16:22:58] <agathite> its all in there
[16:23:09] <agathite> at that point we were just answering questions
[16:23:10] <Kufat> "lol still in denial?"
[16:23:24] <agathite> yeah, bc last night wayy before we begun talking, they were
[16:23:43] <agathite> did you not read the part where they were like "oh wow. what do I do now?" after seeming to realize?
[16:23:42] <Kufat> last night they were uncomfortable enough with your pressuring them that they reached out to a staff member
[16:24:33] <agathite> why were they not uncomfortable enough to ask us to stop like they did just now?
[16:24:41] <agathite> we fully planned to completely ignore them from now on
[16:24:57] <agathite> because they asked us what they did today.
[16:25:14] <agathite> if this is ban worthy we do not feel safe enough to come back. otherwise we'll just not engage w them anymore