coldest - 01/23/2017
zyra, when you are ready.. there is something I want to talk to you about
zyradyl - 01/23/2017
be warned i'm on cold meds at the moment -- flu is murderous this year -- sup?
coldest - 01/23/2017
it didn't have to be now xD
and I would prefer to speak to you on the mic
zyradyl - 01/23/2017
Oh nonono. No offense, I don't do voice chat with anyone if I can avoid it. The last group of people I routinely voice chatted with literally imploded around me while yelling at me, and I have enough of a phobia about speaking as it is. It's not you, It's really not. I just don't do it anymore. Even my crisis consoling work is done via text now.
coldest - 01/23/2017
Would me speaking to you on the chat offend you? you wouldn''t have to respond.. I just would like to explain myself. I promise I won't yell xD
zyradyl - 01/23/2017
It wouldn't bother me, but you need to understand that I will be very unlikely to respond via voice. Which makes me feel a bit rude, but like.. I guess since its pre-established that's alright?
coldest - 01/23/2017
i wouldn't feel offended at all
promise.. I just want you to hear me out
even if you don't agree
or believe me
zyradyl - 01/23/2017
Alright
hang on
zyradyl started a call.01/23/2017
zyradyl - 01/23/2017
yup yup
Forgot how good discords voice quality is
Bernie rocks
i know WL
Before you go on have you seen the conversation chain that lead to assange getting an RT show starting with the attempted dump against russia in 2010 that never came to fruition? I don't believe all the russia scare that has happened recently, but lots of -independent- non US groups have alleged it and done proper state actor attribution on it
As well as assanges AMA where he can't produce cryptographic proof that he still controls the WL PGP leak key?
And refuses to do so?
Not a single crew could produce WL pgp keys
not a single person cryptographically signed a message
and WL is based on PGP
that's their thing
PGP is the single best way to prove ownership of an organization
No
there's no charges
its to sweeden
on rape allegations after he skipped bail in 2012
yes
No no, here let me explain
My issue comes from your statement of neutrality. i don't believe that any of the documents were doctored
I do believe the DNC attempteed to subvert Sanders
WL does not modify documents
Yeah, the emails that came from a phising operation that has the strongest state actor attribution to russia in human history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAsPeY8BsQU
YouTube
Neil Cicierega
MOUTH


gah
ignore that
no you are mistaken
Hang on
The password was accurate, but Guccifer is a plant, per numerous infosec professionals. Not the media, infosec professionals
yes a typo happened from IT
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
Bears in the Midst: Intrusion into the Democratic National Commi...
Follow @CrowdStrike and @DAlperovitch for the latest on these threats June 15, 2016 UPDATE: CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016. On June 15, 2016…

Not media, infosec company
Agree
Right, and she's corrupt
Here's my issue, i don't actually care why you voted for him, I want to know if you support what he's doing now
right
It's the status quo
How do you feel about "Alternative Facts"
AHAHA
hang on
http://www.theherald-news.com/2017/01/23/alternative-facts-quip-from-trump-adviser-kellyanne-conway-sparks-mockery/ar9b3mw/ "Trump has alternative facts"
The Herald-News
'Alternative facts' quip from Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway spa...
NEW YORK – Down is up. The sky is red. Dogs are birthing kittens. Facts? Nope. Try "alternative facts."

Spicer lied on the confrence
trump passed an exec order
to make a holiday
of his innaugeration
we're passing a law to sell off national parks
we passed an exec order to freeze regulation
we're gutting the ACA and reinstating pre-existing conditions and no health care for people on their parents plan
we need to undo roe-v-wade
theres a law to widthdraw from the EU
the global gag policy is back in power
I want to know if you agree with that. That's what you voted for. thats my issue. If you voted to disrupt, thats fine
but whats happening now is trump is threatening to cut out media that doesn't agree
5 states are passing laws
to arrest peaceful protestors
indianas law allows protestors to be shot
that is the america we have now from this
I get disrupting globalism
He's wanting the media to print his lies over the truth, does that scare you at all?
Hang on
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C25tnzaWQAEBlTe.jpg:large MN law

removed conditions
Right
like the media that he wants to remove because they hurt his feelings. I didn't bring up ACA until you did. Here's again, my things:
Law being passed that he will sign to sell off national parks to mining companies
Executive order making his innaugeration a special day
Global Gag Policy
Signed today
Telling his Press sec
to lie and yell at the press
Kellyanne conway saying "Trump has Alternative Facts" when there is video evidence
video
proof
these arent things he might do
they're happening and signed
right now.
Global gag order RIGHT now.
Alternative facts happened on meet the press
Law to withdraw from UN introduced right now, The EPA advisor doesn't agree with climate change
thats his Advisor
right now
that he put forward
Betsy DeVos, a woman wo destroyed the schools in my home state
-Right now-
Being put into power
Kelly Anne Conway
quote
"Trump needs to instate his own intelligence force"
the fact that trump has the Secret Service
and a private group that answers only to him
These aren't things that might happen
this is -right now-
signed today, or put before congress last week
Climate change true or false?
He believes false
he's putting people in power
that want to dismantle it
now lets get on to
the DoE
Rick Perry
who wanted to destroy the DoE doesn't realize that that runs our nuclear weapons
which gets me to proliferation
"America needs to rebuild its nuclear stockpile"
That quote hasn't happened yet
but again
Global Gag order signed today
Regulation freeze signed today
I get that
No, he doesn't
i agree
I get that but here's the issue that I have
No, kellyanne said "Alternative Facts"
thats words
from her mouth
he believes
the video
the media showed
isn't the truth. when we have independent photos
real photos
pictures
and metro counts
he's -lying-
and he's instructed his people
rather than just own up to lying
to invent a whole new fucking reality. Look i get it
attendence at an inaug?
Not the biggest deal
What does it say about him
that he can't admit
"I had the biggest Inaugeration ever"
No the numbers
Agree
I'm not disagreeing
but to stop one thing
you're destroying the rest
agree
Except the numbers were mainly college educated millenials
What you'd have to be alleging
Well here's my level
here's mine:
The VP thinks LGBTQ shouled be electrocuted
I'll take hillary and kaine.
I pray every day
you're right.
Here's the thing
George Bush I'd have a beer with too.
And bush did some horrid things
and furthermore
as to your won't come for women's reproductive rights
do you know what the global gag order is?
That he signed?
Today?
his name?
Big picture?
He signed it.
Here's my view on trump
he believes in america
he's probably really wanting us to do great
well here's the thing:
if you're right?
trump will be gone soon too
If what you're saying is true
You're right
like selling the parks
and the global gag order
he shook that up for sure
read about alternative facts
Well again
here's the thing
if you're right
he wont last long.
Well here's the thing with personal armies
You have to really trust that person.
I don't want this to come across as patronizing because it's text: I do believe you, I really do. I just don't agree. But I also don't want you to think that I'm like.. angry? I get your reasoning now. I don't agree but I do get it
Me too. Like that's the other thing I want to say:
I'm not hoping for him to fail. I am -not- in that group
I hope and pray every day
that he is every ounce what he claimed to be and that he's gonna do what he can, and that he wont come for us
Like, i hope for that
I just can't trust that, if it makes sense?
I do! yes for sure
and I'm not mad
i believe that
I do. I did
I get you, i've studied a lot on libertarianism. Like, again this is text so: I don't say this to be patronizing: I understand where you voted. And on globalism, I agree. Just we have different layers of prioritization
I know him
My fiance is chronically mentally ill and we are struggling in a red state to fight for him in court.
I'm trans and so is he. So the trans stuff matters a lot to me.
So for me
Globalism is down at #100 on my list. It's not a concern. Universal Health care and LGBTQ rights are my #1.
and we have different priorities
and thats ok
I'm not mad
The issue was
to be honest: A lot of people around -here-
voted for him for those things
well real talk: there are 2 plans right now
ryan's plan and a plan from a mormon?
can't remember his name
neither are actually bad
Ryan's would only cost 3m people insurance, the mormons is like 7-11m? But the mormon gives more tax breaks to the poor
Like there not bad plans
and I mean, shit romneycare is the shit
and thats a republican plan
so they -could- come up with some awesome shit
100%
my fear is they use reconcilliation to gut ACA before they get something in place for it
I get ya
hey, this is a cliche but like
that's your right as an american XD
The issue was, straight up: People around here electioneered for trump based on banning LGBTQ stuff
no, that's the thing
those are the ones -i- saw
so when i heard like
you voted for him
that's what happened
I conflated the too
No no, I met them
Gerg, gerg
gerg
I'm trying to apologize please let me finish XD
The issue was people around here that -i- saw vote for him were those extreme right people. Like we voted in a church. I live in a bible belt red state. So what happened was, when I went to vote, I saw all those people. And then I heard about you, and I made a false connection. So my anger and upset ness wasn't at you I guess?
shhhhhh gerg
let me apologize
I was upset at the voters -i- saw
but i didn't know any personally
and i knew you. So you, unfortunately, got painted. and that's my bad
And I'm sorry :stuck_out_tongue:
January 24, 2017
zyradyl - 01/24/2017
I get you. Our issue is that at heart, you're leaning libertarian, and in my heart, I'm a full on Socialist :stuck_out_tongue:
And that's okay, our differences are good things
there is
the political compass is more than left or right
you have economic issues and government issues. so you have left <-> right economics
and Authoritarian <-> Libertarian government
so you can be a leftist libertarian
for sure
I gotta sleep now :stuck_out_tongue: The nyquil is kicking in. But thanks for talking with me
night!
last thing for you:
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1.  It is the policy of my Administration to seek the prompt repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111-148), as amended (the "Act").
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/2/executive-order-minimizing-economic-burden-patient-protection-and
whitehouse.gov
Executive Order Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Pr...
EXECUTIVE ORDER - - - - - - -

and the Global gag: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/23/presidential-memorandum-regarding-mexico-city-policy
whitehouse.gov
Presidential Memorandum Regarding the Mexico City Policy
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE

for real now, i'm off. g'night
February 1, 2017
zyradyl - 02/01/2017
Hey, If this happens, you can shove your DJT likes gay people and womens rights right up your ass, because my employment becomes permanently jeopardized: https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/
The Nation
Leaked Draft of Trump’s Religious Freedom Order Reveals Sweeping...
If signed, the order would create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.

coldest - 02/01/2017
there is a lot of misinformation out right now, I'll reserve my comments until we know for sure
zyradyl - 02/01/2017
Notice I said if.
Again, If it happens. Because the Cyber order was leaked and he suddenly didn't sign that.
He must not like people talking about him behind his back.
But if it happens?
zyradyl - 02/01/2017
I'll give you this though: The skype seat thing is a really fucking cool idea. and I respect that he personally went to the family of the first soldier to die under his command. I respect the hell out of that.
coldest - 02/01/2017
missed the bit about the skype seat
zyradyl - 02/01/2017
That's awesome
that's some shit obama should have done, we should have had that a long time ago
I'm leery that its the press sec that controls who appears on it. Ideally it would be an independent lottery. But once the system is in place thats easy enough to change later
coldest - 02/01/2017
i'm excited that the libertarian group i listen to will be joining the white house press corp
February 10, 2017
zyradyl - 02/10/2017
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/justice-department-takes-a-step-back-from-effort-to-protect?utm_term=.wqdP4BPVP#.dd61rX151
BuzzFeed
Justice Department Takes A Step Back From Effort To Protect Tran...
The department withdrew a request on Friday that a federal court limit an injunction that has halted enforcement of existing civil rights laws to provide protections for transgender people. An inde...