Talk with someone on dbfz discord(Backup)

[10:27 AM] Ed94: Is a hori mini 4 good enough for learning? or does the wobbly button tops fk timing to much?
[10:29 AM] Ed94: I come from melee wanted to make this the game I actually try to play traditonal fighter seriously, so I want to do it with a stick so far its been ok. I thinking about doing a DIY later or getting a better one.
[10:48 AM] Vycan: do you already have a hor mini 4 or are thinkning about buying one?
[10:48 AM] Vycan: cause the qanba drone is the best intro stick imo
[10:49 AM] Vycan: its 80 but still may be on sale at newegg for 40
[10:49 AM] Vycan: @Ed94
[10:49 AM] Ed94: Yeah I had it for a while as a casual thing for older games.
[10:50 AM] Vycan: ahh
[10:50 AM] Vycan: https://t.co/aRDoVRL169
[10:51 AM] Vycan: no longer on sale but comes with sfv for free
[10:51 AM] Vycan: for what thats worth
[10:54 AM] Ed94: Thanks, I'll add it to my wish list. I def be looking into a better stick when I start getting better at basics. I'm a technical player so this prob wont satisfy  me for long. (I'm used to 1 frame time up-b cancels on doc and tech with falco/falcon in melee).(edited)
[10:55 AM] Ed94: I still very much a noob tho for this style of game tho, I having some trouble doing the final combos given by the training for some chars.(edited)
[11:02 AM] Ed94: I'm recording my progress with obs and twitch to see how long it takes from a casual Traditional Fighter background / Semi-Competitive melee background for me to actually pick up things. (Though its not actually nice to watch all the time as my friends are occasionally casually in the background talking about off-topic things.)
[11:04 AM] Vycan: to be fair if you already have the hori mini and are sure you want to play on stick as opposed to pad or hitbox
[11:04 AM] Vycan: id save up for a nicer stick
[11:05 AM] Vycan: like a higher end hori or qanba
[11:05 AM] Vycan: since the jump to something like a drone from the mini isnt that much of a step up
[11:05 AM] Vycan: but Sticks are expensive
[11:05 AM] Vycan: although so are good GC controllers these days
[11:06 AM] Vycan: and i know all about wanting dependable controllers
[11:06 AM] Vycan: missing dashbacks with marth makes me want to die
[11:06 AM] Vycan: thank god for UCF though
[11:12 AM] Ed94: yep UCF is a god send, I know how to do some basic soldering I replaced multiple sticks on gc controllers from wear. (Lithium grease tho is op - last one thanks to it has lasted forever) I'll do that then, I have plenty of time anyways before its going to matter, that or I'm easily willing to DIY it if I can get the parts cheaper.
[11:12 AM] Ed94: I was looking for stuff but couldn't find the prefab housing. prob using wrong search term. (nvm allfightsticks.com has em)(edited)
[11:17 AM] Vycan: i got my hitbox from allfightsticks
[11:17 AM] Vycan: tek-innovations.com has some acrylic options and there is another company thats higher quality that does acrylic ones i cant remember
[11:17 AM] Vycan: definitely reccomend allfightsticks cases
[11:17 AM] Vycan: theyre quite heavy however
[11:18 AM] Vycan:

[11:18 AM] Vycan: this is what mine looks like
[11:18 AM] Vycan: finished with art
[11:20 AM] Ed94: oh nice yeah I actually like the idea of buttons instead of the stick. I don't like how the dashes feel for the double tap  on the sticks rn. How long would it take to transition to that from a regular stick on the ori I'm using if I went that route for the next one?
[11:20 AM] Vycan: do you have the game on pc or ps4?
[11:21 AM] Vycan: and it doesnt take that long
[11:21 AM] Vycan: especially if youre used to playing pc games
[11:21 AM] Ed94: pc rn unless it dies then moving to ps4
[11:21 AM] Vycan: okay
[11:21 AM] Vycan: then if you have a good mechanical keyboard try playing on it
[11:21 AM] Vycan: mapping your movement buttons to a,s,d,space
[11:21 AM] Vycan: just to get a feel
[11:21 AM] Ed94: i have a posidon mech blues so will do.
[11:22 AM] Vycan: a is left, s is down, d is right, space is up
[11:22 AM] Vycan: then for the other buttons whatever is comfortable
[11:22 AM] Vycan: but i used
[11:22 AM] Vycan: UIOP
JKL:
[11:22 AM] Vycan: for my 8 buttons
[11:23 AM] Vycan: thats the whole reason i started playing on a stickless setuo
[11:23 AM] Vycan: i learned how to play skullgirls on keyboard
[11:23 AM] Ed94: ah
[11:32 AM] Ed94: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/230922243?t=03h43m35s this is where I'm at now, I need to still finish half the story apparently, get 100% on the combo practice and prob a bunch of arcade to go. I started getting basic mechanics down. Should I just keep this up for now and not touch the online stuff yet?(edited)
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Day 2 - Beat Evil Campain, Second Arcade Run, Did a bunch of combo practice at work/home.
[11:33 AM] MrFishHead: @Galaxi Sweet, how is it?
[11:41 AM] Vycan: from the little bit i was able to watch at work i dont think arcade mode will really help you with the issues i saw
[11:42 AM] Vycan: honestly playing online and getting your ass beat some will probably help
[11:42 AM] Vycan: i noticed you were grabbing a lot
[11:42 AM] Vycan: which is a surefire way to get full combod by a competent opponent
[11:42 AM] Vycan: id recommend looking into some of the character specific resources and praticing combos
[11:43 AM] Vycan: as well as learning the basic BnB combos that almost every character has
[11:43 AM] Ed94: Thanks I'll start doing that.
[11:43 AM] Vycan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYw3mt3HMw&
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Maximilian Dood
HOW TO EXTEND COMBOS: DragonBall FighterZ w/Maximilian

[11:43 AM] Vycan: This video is also super helpful
[11:44 AM] Vycan: are you familiar with the notation system of this game yet?
[11:44 AM] Vycan: such as 5M, 2H, jL etc
[11:46 AM] Ed94: 5th hit into medium, 2nd heavy attack, jab light?
[11:46 AM] Ed94: nvm its direction on the num.
[11:47 AM] Vycan: yup
[11:47 AM] Vycan: look at the numpad makes it easy
[11:47 AM] Vycan: so 236 is a quarter circle forward
[11:47 AM] Vycan: j will mean jump
[11:48 AM] Vycan: dj means double jump
[11:48 AM] Vycan: and sj means super jump
[11:48 AM] Vycan: 2 is crouching and 5 is standing
[11:48 AM] Vycan: so 2M, 5M, jLM2H
[11:48 AM] Vycan: which is the basic combo starter would be crouching medium, standing medium, jump light, medium, down heavy
[11:49 AM] Vycan: starting the combo like this as opposed to a heavy on the ground means you still have access to super dash
[11:50 AM] Vycan: so the down heavy will launch them and you can super dash to follow up
[11:50 AM] Vycan: i reccomend practicing that in training mode
[11:50 AM] Vycan: sorry for the wall of text
[11:51 AM] Ed94: np thx man. (They have a pin for the directions too)(edited)
[11:52 AM] Vycan: yeah i was trying to find it lol
[11:52 AM] Vycan: i was looking in resources
[11:52 AM] Vycan: it was in this channel all along
[11:53 AM] Vycan: if you have any questions let me know. Im more than happy to help
[11:56 AM] Ed94: a lot of my dragon rushes are actually execution flubs lol, I'm trying to super half the time at least. Still not used to that digital stick.
[11:56 AM] Vycan: ahh, that makes sense then
[11:57 AM] Vycan: yeah i saw some weird dragon rushes and was confused
[11:57 AM] Vycan: but i thought that may be a smash habit
[11:57 AM] Vycan: since grabs on getup are good in smash if timed correctly
[11:57 AM] Ed94: yeah I can tell grabs should only be mixup in this game I think.
[11:58 AM] Vycan: they can be really good
[11:59 AM] Vycan: and theyre good to combo into for snapbacks
[12:17 PM] Ed94: so far I like how Beerus, Cell, Frieza, Gohan(A), Vegeta(S), and MajBuu feel. I'm not attached to anything tho, not making that mistake after having Doc becoming my only good char other than falcon in melee even after 3+ months of not using him and only grinding falcon lol.(edited)
[1:27 PM] Kenshin: So why does Cells S sometimes not juggle the opponent but just sticks them to the ground when i do the loops