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  1. 31<Cannabisius>30 Proccess question - does the TOS / AUP dictate how glines are given?
  2. 18<Gingercat> An odd question, especially without context to base an answer on
  3. 31<Cannabisius>30 I'm talking in context about the #tf2mix bot, I don't know what other conversations have gone on, and I'm a bit in the dark esp. because the site does not have an established bot policy
  4. 31<Cannabisius>30 (bot policy, example: http://esper.net/bots.php )
  5. 18<Gingercat> Well, bots are generally fine so long as they're not doing things like providing filesharing, ban evasion, channel / user spam, etc
  6. 18<Gingercat> They also need to be careful that they don't Excess Flood due to trying to send too much output at once (same as normal users)
  7. 31<Cannabisius>30 it seems output is split into 4 connections
  8. 31<Cannabisius>30 which seems a bit weird to me
  9. 18<Gingercat> Interesting. GS has a limit of 4 connections per host
  10. 18<Gingercat> A 5th results in an auto 1hr gline for "Excessive connections"
  11. 18<Gingercat> But all connected clients get warned on the 4th
  12. 18<Gingercat> You can request a "Connection trust"
  13. 18<Gingercat> via the website, which boosts the allowed connections on a specified IP
  14. 31<Cannabisius>30 okay, i'll mention that to the maintainers
  15. 21<cyberdeath>21 Cannabisius : They have to serve a purpose. And as Gingercat alluded to, you can request a trust assuming you have a bonafide reason for having one.
  16. 31<Cannabisius>30 i must say, I don't really see the purpose in having 4 connections to split the messages
  17. 31<Cannabisius>30 they already have it going through a SQL buffer
  18. 21<cyberdeath>21 Cannabisius : Probably for the "Excess Flood" that Gingercat alluded to.
  19. 18<Gingercat> Yeah, me either... Seems like an odd choice
  20. 18<Gingercat> Ah yes. That ^ would make sense
  21. 18<Gingercat> (Hiya cyber!)
  22. 18<cyberdeath> And to keep the bots from being throttled.
  23. 18<cyberdeath> Hi Kitteh :)
  24. 18<Gingercat> :D
  25. 31<Cannabisius>30 Kay, i'll look into a code solution to submit
  26. 18<Gingercat> Np :)
  27. 21<cyberdeath>21 Cannabisius, you're welcome. If you need further assistance, feel free to ask in #support or e-mail me: cyberdeath@gamesurge.net .
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