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- **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 07 19:51:44 2013
- Nov 07 19:51:46 <RingtailedFox> welcome back
- Nov 07 19:51:51 <witheld> I generally find that someone who is given the chance to leave is less bitter about it then someone who is forced to leave(with a kickban), it's just a way to be slightly nicer about it. You were doing a lot of things, and I'm not sure I asked you to leave for the reasons you think I did, but generally your behaviors were agrevating
- Nov 07 19:51:56 <RingtailedFox> so, do you and tum always turn on people you consider "Friends"?
- Nov 07 19:52:19 <witheld> Well no but violent outbursts are not the norm
- Nov 07 19:52:27 <RingtailedFox> please explain how i'm being violent
- Nov 07 19:53:24 <witheld> Well in a particularly agrevating example, I was pinging a google server because it's easy to remember, and you just started stuff for no reason
- Nov 07 19:53:46 * RingtailedFox nods
- Nov 07 19:56:34 <RingtailedFox> tum needs to learn to stop copypasting things from private message into chats :)
- Nov 07 19:57:39 <RingtailedFox> and since tum blocks me, i'll remind myself that you said "what i see, tum sees" :)
- Nov 07 19:57:47 <RingtailedFox> so, tum... you gotta learn to stop being such a dillhole
- Nov 07 19:58:39 * RingtailedFox pokes
- Nov 07 19:58:41 * [witheld] ([email protected]): witheld
- Nov 07 19:58:41 * [witheld] #yaoi
- Nov 07 19:58:41 * [witheld] *.rizon.net :Where are you?
- Nov 07 19:58:41 * [witheld] has identified for this nick
- Nov 07 19:58:41 * [witheld] End of WHOIS list.
- Nov 07 19:58:49 <witheld> hmm
- Nov 07 19:59:28 <RingtailedFox> i love how he keeps sending you and stupiddog to fight his battles for him
- Nov 07 19:59:34 <RingtailedFox> and threatens to block me becuase he can't win an argument
- Nov 07 19:59:36 <RingtailedFox> sigh.
- Nov 07 19:59:38 <RingtailedFox> such immaturity
- Nov 07 20:00:16 <witheld> tsk tsk
- Nov 07 20:00:45 <RingtailedFox> what? it's not my fault tum is such a tard
- Nov 07 20:01:49 <witheld> Cute
- Nov 07 20:02:04 <RingtailedFox> using words to try to hurt me... is that because you and your friends can't physically harm me?
- Nov 07 20:02:47 <witheld> No one's trying to harm you
- Nov 07 20:03:02 <witheld> But right now you're calling people tards while calling THEM immature
- Nov 07 20:03:18 <RingtailedFox> what would you do? and if you say block or ignore or log off, i'l just laugh at you
- Nov 07 20:03:22 <RingtailedFox> becuase i don't ever retreat
- Nov 07 20:04:12 <witheld> Well that's very immature in itself, not the act but the thinking. "Retreat" implies it's a war, or a game, with winning and losing, but we're not playing a game, and we're not in a war
- Nov 07 20:04:16 <witheld> There is no winning
- Nov 07 20:04:19 <witheld> There is no losing
- Nov 07 20:04:23 <witheld> There's no retreating
- Nov 07 20:05:00 <witheld> These concepts simply don't apply
- Nov 07 20:05:53 <witheld> I'll do whatever is best for my mental well being, that's what matters
- Nov 07 20:05:54 <RingtailedFox> that's quite interesting. the way you word things makes it alright for you to harass and insult others, but not alright for others to retaliate the same way
- Nov 07 20:06:08 <RingtailedFox> it's nice to twist and bend words and their meanings into whatever you want them to be
- Nov 07 20:06:08 <witheld> No that wording doesn't imply any of that
- Nov 07 20:06:14 <witheld> It implies that we're not playing a game
- Nov 07 20:06:17 <RingtailedFox> so, why would you and tum and stupiddog do that then?
- Nov 07 20:06:34 <RingtailedFox> posting shit from private messages, insulting others when it's not needed...
- Nov 07 20:06:36 <witheld> There's no shame in "retreating" because we're not in a war, and we should all do what's best for us
- Nov 07 20:06:37 <RingtailedFox> very trollish behaviour
- Nov 07 20:06:44 <RingtailedFox> so, being trolls is what's "best for you"?
- Nov 07 20:07:10 <witheld> No I don't beleive so
- Nov 07 20:07:16 <RingtailedFox> then why do it?
- Nov 07 20:07:20 <witheld> I don't
- Nov 07 20:07:39 <RingtailedFox> of course you did. by telling me to "leave or be banned", and not reprimanding tum and stupiddog for harassing me
- Nov 07 20:07:44 <RingtailedFox> why do they do it?
- Nov 07 20:08:13 <witheld> Tum owns the channel, but I don't beleive I saw any trollish behavior from tiehr of them
- Nov 07 20:08:27 <RingtailedFox> what would your definition of troll be?
- Nov 07 20:09:43 <witheld> It's mostly about mind games, trying intentionally to rile you up one way or another
- Nov 07 20:10:06 <RingtailedFox> that's what tum did... saying he never wanted friendship and taunting me in PM
- Nov 07 20:10:11 <RingtailedFox> so, posting stuff from private messages in public in an attempt to humiliate others, insulting them, and harassing them isn't troll behaviour? or do they get passes on everything becuase you're best friends?
- Nov 07 20:10:29 <witheld> Well I'll just have to kick tum from the pm won't I
- Nov 07 20:10:39 <RingtailedFox> no, as that is illogical
- Nov 07 20:10:44 <RingtailedFox> you'd have to kick him from his channel
- Nov 07 20:10:53 <witheld> It didn't happen in the channel
- Nov 07 20:11:01 <RingtailedFox> so?
- Nov 07 20:11:10 <witheld> As a rule channel decisious happen based on things that happened in the channel
- Nov 07 20:11:16 <RingtailedFox> i see you're just going to waste my time, since tum can do no wrong in your eyes
- Nov 07 20:11:20 <RingtailedFox> same with stupiddog and the others
- Nov 07 20:11:22 <RingtailedFox> am i right?
- Nov 07 20:11:36 <RingtailedFox> and if you broke your own rules, woudl you kick yourself out?
- Nov 07 20:12:13 <witheld> There's no strict set of rules really, that would be difficult
- Nov 07 20:12:36 <RingtailedFox> ahh. so when you get tired of someone, you just drive them off this way?
- Nov 07 20:12:54 <witheld> I remove disruptive people, yes
- Nov 07 20:13:05 <RingtailedFox> and if they're not disruptive, you call them so to get them out
- Nov 07 20:13:24 <witheld> Why would I want someone who wasn't being disruptive gone?
- Nov 07 20:13:31 <RingtailedFox> becuase you dislike them
- Nov 07 20:13:36 <RingtailedFox> or have a grudge against them
- Nov 07 20:13:39 <RingtailedFox> how the fuck should i know how you think?
- Nov 07 20:13:40 <witheld> There are people in the channel I dislike
- Nov 07 20:13:42 <witheld> Right now
- Nov 07 20:13:59 <RingtailedFox> yeah, i doubt that
- Nov 07 20:14:03 <RingtailedFox> if you disliked them, they'd be gone
- Nov 07 20:14:10 <witheld> No
- Nov 07 20:14:13 <RingtailedFox> then you're a liar
- Nov 07 20:14:19 <RingtailedFox> and not to be trusted, believed, or listened to
- Nov 07 20:14:25 <witheld> I get rid of people who are cuasing a disruption
- Nov 07 20:14:38 <witheld> Like BoyKat, I really don't like him that much, he's not banned
- Nov 07 20:15:03 <witheld> His presence doesn't cause drama
- Nov 07 20:16:49 <witheld> Generally, as soon as you enter the room, there's issues, usually with multiple people, myself included
- Nov 07 20:16:56 <RingtailedFox> o.O
- Nov 07 20:17:40 <witheld> There are currently 4+ people in that room who are pissed at you
- Nov 07 20:18:07 <witheld> If this is everyone else's fault because we're all dysfunctional, okay whatever, leave the dysfunctional people alone then
- Nov 07 20:18:23 <RingtailedFox> four people pissed at me?
- Nov 07 20:18:24 <RingtailedFox> for what?
- Nov 07 20:18:39 <RingtailedFox> stupiddog, you, tum, and... that one user that starts with a B that i don't care to remember, right?
- Nov 07 20:18:49 <RingtailedFox> bitchdeloria or something
- Nov 07 20:18:55 <RingtailedFox> correct?
- Nov 07 20:19:44 <witheld> That's all I'm counting, maybe one more, but I don't feel like checking
- Nov 07 20:19:59 <RingtailedFox> well, their opinions don't count :P
- Nov 07 20:20:04 <RingtailedFox> sorry, but that's just a fact of life
- Nov 07 20:20:12 <RingtailedFox> i wish it were different, too
- Nov 07 20:20:12 <witheld> I'm sorry?
- Nov 07 20:20:21 <witheld> What?
- Nov 07 20:20:25 <RingtailedFox> their opinions stopped mattering the second they started trolling me
- Nov 07 20:20:49 <witheld> They are the people already there and also the majority
- Nov 07 20:21:05 <RingtailedFox> well good for them
- Nov 07 20:21:16 <RingtailedFox> majority does not equal correct
- Nov 07 20:21:32 <witheld> Nobody was trolling you, and as long as you keep this attitude, things are going to keep going like this. But again, if you'd like to think we're all dysfunctional and you are perfect, that is fine
- Nov 07 20:21:42 <witheld> Let the dysfunctional people alone
- Nov 07 20:22:01 <RingtailedFox> i never said i was perfect
- Nov 07 20:22:06 <RingtailedFox> and i'll leave them alone when they apologize
- Nov 07 20:22:23 <witheld> Nobody is going to apologize to you for something they didn't do
- Nov 07 20:22:37 <RingtailedFox> so, tum didn't post private messages in public, or insult me?
- Nov 07 20:22:38 <witheld> Again, no one was trolling you. This is on you.
- Nov 07 20:22:47 <RingtailedFox> <Tum> Oh fuck
- Nov 07 20:22:47 <RingtailedFox> <Tum> I'm not deserving of something that I don't even want
- Nov 07 20:22:47 <RingtailedFox> <Tum> what ever shall I do?
- Nov 07 20:22:49 <RingtailedFox> how is that not trolling?
- Nov 07 20:22:52 <RingtailedFox> how is that "on me"?
- Nov 07 20:23:10 <witheld> We don't want you RingtailedFox
- Nov 07 20:23:20 <RingtailedFox> yeah, i get that. but i have two words for it:
- Nov 07 20:23:21 <RingtailedFox> too
- Nov 07 20:23:21 <witheld> That's just a fact
- Nov 07 20:23:21 <RingtailedFox> bad
- Nov 07 20:23:24 <RingtailedFox> :)
- Nov 07 20:23:29 <RingtailedFox> you got me whether you want me or not
- Nov 07 20:23:30 <RingtailedFox> want me?
- Nov 07 20:23:31 <RingtailedFox> yay.
- Nov 07 20:23:33 <RingtailedFox> don't want me?
- Nov 07 20:23:34 <witheld> What do you mean too bad? We run this shit
- Nov 07 20:23:35 <RingtailedFox> EVEN BETTER.
- Nov 07 20:23:39 <RingtailedFox> good for you
- Nov 07 20:23:58 <RingtailedFox> i have a few thousand proxies if needed :P
- Nov 07 20:24:14 <witheld> Why do you want to be with dysfunctional people
- Nov 07 20:24:16 <witheld> With "trolls"
- Nov 07 20:24:32 <witheld> We're clearly not your crowd
- Nov 07 20:24:39 <RingtailedFox> they weren't always dysfunctional. tum and i were friends for a while
- Nov 07 20:24:39 <witheld> Go hang out with your friends
- Nov 07 20:24:49 <RingtailedFox> you guys were my friends
- Nov 07 20:24:58 <RingtailedFox> so... sure. unban me and i will "go hang out with my friends"
- Nov 07 20:25:12 <witheld> We're not your friends anymore
- Nov 07 20:25:16 <RingtailedFox> and why the change?
- Nov 07 20:25:35 <witheld> I couldn't tell
- Nov 07 20:25:46 <RingtailedFox> so, you just dump people at random without a reason or even knowing why?
- Nov 07 20:26:18 <witheld> Well I do know, you saw, you immediately pissed off every one who was active at the time
- Nov 07 20:26:25 <witheld> That's a big one
- Nov 07 20:27:20 <RingtailedFox> they were already pissed off
- Nov 07 20:27:27 <RingtailedFox> apparently, insulting the almighty google is a bannable offense now?
- Nov 07 20:27:27 <witheld> No they were fine before you got there
- Nov 07 20:27:31 <witheld> They're fine now
- Nov 07 20:27:35 <RingtailedFox> i didn't know that if i insult google, they'
- Nov 07 20:27:39 <witheld> It wasn't about insulting google, I don't like google
- Nov 07 20:27:52 <witheld> I have my own email server for christ sake
- Nov 07 20:29:29 <witheld> What's bannable is pissing off the entire chan as soon as you get there `-`
- Nov 07 20:29:29 <witheld> idlers nonwithstanding
- Nov 07 20:30:52 <RingtailedFox> ?
- Nov 07 20:30:59 <RingtailedFox> so, simply joining a channel pisses people off?
- Nov 07 20:31:02 <RingtailedFox> i didn't know that
- Nov 07 20:31:34 <witheld> The things you did in the chan pissed people off, stop playing games
- Nov 07 20:32:04 <RingtailedFox> which things were they?
- Nov 07 20:32:08 <RingtailedFox> be specific
- Nov 07 20:33:40 <witheld> I don't need to be, people are pissed, that's the fact of the matter. Well, they were, they're all doing pretty good now
- Nov 07 20:33:46 <witheld> Cooled down for the most part
- Nov 07 20:33:54 <RingtailedFox> if you don't want to be specific, than neither do i
- Nov 07 20:34:12 * RingtailedFox will just have to keep "playing games" by being nonspecific and vague
- Nov 07 20:34:21 <witheld> ...what would you even be specific about? I haven't asked you any questions?
- Nov 07 20:34:47 <RingtailedFox> you said i pissed everyone off
- Nov 07 20:34:48 <RingtailedFox> i asked how
- Nov 07 20:34:51 <RingtailedFox> and you said i'm playing games
- Nov 07 20:35:41 <witheld> What
- Nov 07 20:35:42 <witheld> No
- Nov 07 20:35:44 <witheld> You misunderstand
- Nov 07 20:35:56 <RingtailedFox> yes i do
- Nov 07 20:36:01 <witheld> You joining the channel did not cause people to be pissed off, you know that
- Nov 07 20:36:20 <witheld> Basically everything you said rubbed someone the wrong way
- Nov 07 20:36:30 <RingtailedFox> ahh, so asking how people are doing pisses them off
- Nov 07 20:36:36 <RingtailedFox> then they have a bias against me an i'm screwed no matter what i do
- Nov 07 20:36:44 <witheld> Basically everything, obviously some things didn't
- Nov 07 20:37:42 <RingtailedFox> so i'm right
- Nov 07 20:37:48 <RingtailedFox> saying hi pisses people off
- Nov 07 20:37:50 <RingtailedFox> that's not my problem then
- Nov 07 20:38:03 <witheld> Saying hi did not
- Nov 07 20:38:10 <RingtailedFox> then be specific
- Nov 07 20:38:15 <RingtailedFox> if you don't have to be, then your argument is invalid
- Nov 07 20:38:39 <witheld> It's basically eaiser to find the things that weren't annoying
- Nov 07 20:38:48 <RingtailedFox> yeah, i doubt that
- Nov 07 20:39:06 <witheld> No seriously
- Nov 07 20:39:18 <RingtailedFox> you just keep proving me right, witheld
- Nov 07 20:39:28 <RingtailedFox> asking how people are doing, or what their interests are is annoying...
- Nov 07 20:39:32 <RingtailedFox> that's... quite interesting
- Nov 07 20:40:09 <witheld> I wasn't even here when you joined, and every line I'm looking at is pretty annoying in some way
- Nov 07 20:40:09 <witheld> So to be specific: everything in my logs
- Nov 07 20:40:42 <witheld> no
- Nov 07 20:40:46 <witheld> I never even got those lines
- Nov 07 20:40:46 <RingtailedFox> again
- Nov 07 20:40:47 <RingtailedFox> not
- Nov 07 20:40:47 <RingtailedFox> my
- Nov 07 20:40:48 <RingtailedFox> problem
- Nov 07 20:40:58 <witheld> Like I said, everything in my logs
- Nov 07 20:41:01 <witheld> -mine-
- Nov 07 20:41:16 <RingtailedFox> well good for you
- Nov 07 20:41:17 <witheld> RingtailedFox | that's.... kinda uncalled for, tum :P
- Nov 07 20:41:20 <RingtailedFox> you want an award or something?
- Nov 07 20:41:24 <witheld> this
- Nov 07 20:41:24 <witheld> + everything below it that you wrote
- Nov 07 20:41:26 <RingtailedFox> yeah, how is that upsetting?
- Nov 07 20:41:33 <RingtailedFox> he says something offensive. i didn't
- Nov 07 20:41:41 <RingtailedFox> why not repost what he said?
- Nov 07 20:41:53 <witheld> that didn't upset anyone but you
- Nov 07 20:42:13 <RingtailedFox> bravo.
- Nov 07 20:42:19 <RingtailedFox> you're proving me right in that you're all trolls :)
- Nov 07 20:42:24 <RingtailedFox> which is kinda fun, actually
- Nov 07 20:42:51 <witheld> I said you want to beleive we're all dysfunctional and you're not, that's fine
- Nov 07 20:42:54 <witheld> Already said that
- Nov 07 20:42:59 <witheld> Like twice
- Nov 07 20:43:54 <RingtailedFox> hey, you said you're disfunctional, not me
- Nov 07 20:44:13 <witheld> I did not, but I did say if you want to beleive that, it's OK with me
- Nov 07 20:44:17 <witheld> That works fine
- Nov 07 20:46:34 <witheld> So you probably should avoid people you beleive are dysfunctional, and let them live out their dysfunctional lives, you can hang out with your non-dysfunctional friends in your non-dysfunctional life
- Nov 07 20:47:10 <RingtailedFox> but, i'm dysfunctional too. we need to stick together :)
- Nov 07 20:49:04 <witheld> Unfortuantly we don't want to stick together because you piss everyone off
- Nov 07 20:49:28 <RingtailedFox> how do i piss you off? you never said how... and if i don't know what my flaws are, how can i fix them?
- Nov 07 20:49:43 <RingtailedFox> oh... ur just jelly that i'm not QUITE as dysfunctional as you gaiz?
- Nov 07 20:50:30 <witheld> whatever reasons you like hon
- Nov 07 20:50:49 <RingtailedFox> dun call me hon, ok, love?
- Nov 07 20:51:14 <witheld> alright scout
- Nov 07 20:51:22 <RingtailedFox> sweet, dear
- Nov 07 20:55:53 <RingtailedFox> yawn... boredboredboredboredbored...
- Nov 07 20:56:09 <RingtailedFox> do something stupid to entertain me... you know... just type or think (or try to, anyway)...
- Nov 07 20:57:07 <witheld> cute
- Nov 07 20:57:32 <RingtailedFox> why tahnk you! i know you don't mean it, but thanks anyway!
- Nov 07 21:24:57 <-- witheld has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- Nov 07 22:08:53 <RingtailedFox> tum, don't go! you said you were enjoying it!
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